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[Flickr Case XXXXXX] Re: Moderated
Friday, November 21, 2008 5:15 PM
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“Flickr Support” <casexxxxxx@support.flickr.com>
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While the overall account setting has been flagged as
“moderate”, you can use the Organizr to flag content
yourself as either “safe”, “moderate” or “restricted”.

This flagging will not overwrite the account setting and
be perceived by the community, but will be visible to us
for review.

Regards,

Heather

[Flickr Case XXXXXX] Re: Moderated
Friday, November 21, 2008 4:52 PM
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“How can you monitor what photos I am marking as safe and
moderated? When since my account is marked as moderated, I
am unable to mark anything as safe?”

We’re looking to see how you moderate what you upload in
the next month. To ensure that you have a better
understanding of how your content should be flagged.

You can moderate your content in Organizr. We will see what
you select and that’s what we will review.

Regards,

Heather

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Chris,

Thanks for your patience.

What we’ve done in the past for similar cases is ask that
members moderate their account for a month. We can then
review and determine if there’s a better understanding.

You can bulk flag your content via the Organizer. Drag the
photos that you want to change the safety level on from the
finder strip at the bottom into to work area. Then select
“Set safety filter” from the “Permissions” menu (second
from left).

We’ll be able to view how you’ve flagged your photos. If we
can see that you’re making an effort to flag your content
appropriately, then we will revert your overall safety
level to “safe/public”. The photos that you’ve flagged
yourself will remain as “moderate” or “restricted” while
the majority will be viewable by all.

Please feel free to respond to this email on or after
December 21st and we’ll review your account.

Regards,

Heather

Apparently Flickr isn’t even responding to me any more. I sent an email Friday afternoon, and again this morning. And I am getting nothing in return. Not even a response telling me they are or aren’t working on it. I love being ignored. Especially when I am a paying customer.

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“Taps” <taps7734@yahoo.com>
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Heather,

I understand that it was possible you were not working over the weekend, so I have waited to post a followup to this query.

I am still wondering when my account will be set back to safe?

Chris Patterson
Taps7734

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— On Fri, 11/14/08, Flickr Support <xxxxxx@support.flickr.com> wrote:

> Actually, we consider those to me more sexually explicit
> and they need to be flagged as “restricted”.

We apparently disagree on what is considered to be “Sexually Explicit”. But I am agreeing to abide by your definitions. I have no problem marking those as Restricted.

> With regards to changing your status, it’s not clear to
> me
> from our back and forth that you understand why filters are
> important in respecting the greater community. We’re
> happy
> to work with our members, to get them back to a
> “safe/public” status, but we need to get a sense
> that
> they’re more understanding of why it’s important.

Do not be confused. I understand perfectly why they are important. As a father of a pre-teen daughter, I am one of the first to jump on this. It just goes back to a difference in opinion. As I put it elsewhere, my personal interpretation of the guidelines follow 3 general rules of thumb:

1) If you cant see it on daytime TV, then mark it as moderated.

2) If you cant see it on Late Night premium cable, then mark it as restricted.

3) And if you cant see it in seedy porno theaters, or hiding in your closet with a web browser… then its probably illegal and you cant display it anywhere.

What I am requesting is that my newly renewed pro account be set back to safe. It was very disheartening to see that photos that had been posted as they were for over a year without complaint were suddenly deemed offensive. Especially when it is only 2 days after my account was renewed for a second year.

When all is said and done, we can debate the meaning of safe, moderated, and restricted all day. The fact that I disagree with your interpretation of those words is not under question here. The fact that I have agreed to comply with your definitions of those words is.

The images in question, as well as others have bee flagged accordingly. And will continue to be in the future. I would appreciate my account status being returned as soon as possible.

Chris Patterson
Taps7734